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STNC Sample
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Ian Petts
2005-10-19 01:36:21 UTC
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I've been trying to work out what the "crowd"-sounding sample says in
Some Things Never Change - does anyone know? I can't seem to find a Devo
FAQ either...

Thanks,
Ian.
dave
2005-10-19 10:27:35 UTC
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sounds to me like "hang your head"

It works in context at least
Trial and Error
2005-10-19 10:32:09 UTC
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Thats what I thought too but I seem to remember having read somewhere that
its actually "Bang your head"........shame or frustration ?
Post by dave
sounds to me like "hang your head"
It works in context at least
Ian Petts
2005-10-19 23:18:12 UTC
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Post by Trial and Error
Thats what I thought too but I seem to remember having read somewhere that
its actually "Bang your head"........shame or frustration ?
It might be my imagination, but there might even be two [slightly]
different samples in there.
Pea Hicks
2005-10-24 20:31:51 UTC
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Post by Ian Petts
Post by Trial and Error
Thats what I thought too but I seem to remember having read somewhere that
its actually "Bang your head"........shame or frustration ?
It might be my imagination, but there might even be two [slightly]
different samples in there.
i have an old issue of a music tech magazine with an interview with mark
about the total devo album, and he says these are samples of
cheerleaders that he made himself in the field... can't remember if he
said whether or not they're "saying" anything in particular, but when i
get a chance i'll look it up...

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j t
2005-10-25 04:28:09 UTC
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Post by Pea Hicks
Post by Ian Petts
Post by Trial and Error
Thats what I thought too but I seem to remember having read somewhere that
its actually "Bang your head"........shame or frustration ?
It might be my imagination, but there might even be two [slightly]
different samples in there.
i have an old issue of a music tech magazine with an interview with mark
about the total devo album, and he says these are samples of
cheerleaders that he made himself in the field... can't remember if he
said whether or not they're "saying" anything in particular, but when i
get a chance i'll look it up...
I read that mag too.

It was Jerry who said something to the effect of:

They made a recording of cheerleaders doing their cheers, and then took
all of the syllables and mixed them up to make gibberish.

It does sound like 'hang your head' or 'bang your head', but that's
just coincidence.

They're spelling the name of their school, but with the letters all
mixed up and unintelligible!
JonYo
2005-10-25 07:49:29 UTC
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Post by j t
Post by Pea Hicks
Post by Ian Petts
Post by Trial and Error
Thats what I thought too but I seem to remember having read somewhere that
its actually "Bang your head"........shame or frustration ?
It might be my imagination, but there might even be two [slightly]
different samples in there.
i have an old issue of a music tech magazine with an interview with mark
about the total devo album, and he says these are samples of
cheerleaders that he made himself in the field... can't remember if he
said whether or not they're "saying" anything in particular, but when i
get a chance i'll look it up...
I read that mag too.
They made a recording of cheerleaders doing their cheers, and then took
all of the syllables and mixed them up to make gibberish.
It does sound like 'hang your head' or 'bang your head', but that's
just coincidence.
They're spelling the name of their school, but with the letters all
mixed up and unintelligible!
Any KMFDM fans here? In several KMFDM songs like Drug Against War and
Wrath they use a very very similar kind of sound/effect/idea, where it
sounds like a huge hall full of people singing certain parts, but
they're doing it way too perfectly in time and on pitch with each other
for it to be an *actual* recording of a huge group of people. It sounds
very similar to that bit in Some Things Never Change. I've always
wondered how KMFDM and Devo get that effect, mostly because...well, I
kinda want to rip it off and use it in some of my own music! I suspect
it's some kind of massive chrorus or some such time-based effect with
many copies of the same vocal bit duplicated with small changes in
timing and pitch applied to each copy. Anyone fellow tech heads have
any insight? I would like to have a nice "yelling mob chorus emsemble"
effect in my arsenal.

Although ever changing,
Favorite KMFDM song of the moment: a tie between Megalomaniac and D.I.Y.
Favorite Devo song of the moment: That's Good (live version from recent
tours with long intro)

Non siamo uomini? Siamo Devo!

- JonYo!
dave
2005-10-26 23:15:14 UTC
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Post by JonYo
Anyone fellow tech heads have
any insight? I would like to have a nice "yelling mob chorus emsemble"
effect in my arsenal.
There's a similar effect in CoolEdit called "convolution".

It's kinda hard to describe, sort of a modulated reverb?

Here's a small sample, "Crow" from Mystery Science Theater 3000,
first uneffected, then "convoluted" with white noise, then with brown noise.

http://www.sixxthurdy.com/devo/HeyLook.mp3


--dave
JonYo
2005-10-27 02:19:48 UTC
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Post by dave
Post by JonYo
Anyone fellow tech heads have
any insight? I would like to have a nice "yelling mob chorus emsemble"
effect in my arsenal.
There's a similar effect in CoolEdit called "convolution".
It's kinda hard to describe, sort of a modulated reverb?
Here's a small sample, "Crow" from Mystery Science Theater 3000,
first uneffected, then "convoluted" with white noise, then with brown noise.
http://www.sixxthurdy.com/devo/HeyLook.mp3
--dave
I was thinking somethng more like this:

http://homepage.mac.com/jonyo/kmfdmbit.mp3

Although when I listen to it again, it seems like a case of simple
sampling and maybe smoothing it out afterwards. Not sure. Either way,
it's a lot less "wow" now that I've reminded myself of how it sounds
exactly. (I hadn't listened to that song in a long while.) What I
*WISH* I could do artificially by multiplying a signal and apying some
sort of time and pitch variations to each copy, is something like this:

http://homepage.mac.com/jonyo/sham69bit.mp3

So, that's an ACTUAL crowd yelling along, staying reasonably together in
time and pitch. Of course, even if I could gather enough people to do
some massive recording, I don't have any place big enough to properly
record them!

- JonYo
Dr. Strangemonde
2005-10-27 08:08:50 UTC
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Post by j t
It does sound like 'hang your head' or 'bang your head', but
that's just coincidence.
They're spelling the name of their school, but with the letters
all mixed up and unintelligible!
Sometimes I hear it as "ring your bell" or even "bring your dead".
Thanx for solving this "riddle that comes in a rhyme".

- Dr S
Ronald Cole
2005-11-28 21:19:52 UTC
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Post by Ian Petts
I've been trying to work out what the "crowd"-sounding sample says in
Some Things Never Change - does anyone know? I can't seem to find a Devo
FAQ either...
The lyric sheet in the original Enigma release says "hang your head".
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