Devo 2.0 kid was in Monk

[r***@excite.com]

Kane Richotte was an actor in Monk and is now the drummer in Dev2.0.
Has he talked about being in Monk?

He played the son of Sharona Fleming, played by Bitty Schram, who
abruptly left Monk causing a huge uproar among fans. But the show is
still good. It's a funny and sometimes poignant show about a detective
who has some real problems.

The Devo page said the kids in 2.0 are 10-12 years old but I think Kane
is older than that.

[Millard Fillmore]

Post by r***@excite.com
Kane Richotte was an actor in Monk and is now the drummer in Dev2.0.
Has he talked about being in Monk?
He played the son of Sharona Fleming, played by Bitty Schram, who
abruptly left Monk causing a huge uproar among fans. But the show is
still good. It's a funny and sometimes poignant show about a detective
who has some real problems.
The Devo page said the kids in 2.0 are 10-12 years old but I think Kane
is older than that.

Kane Richotte was born on 11 October 1991, which makes him 14. He was
in 15 episodes of "Monk."

Devo 2.0 is one of a number of Disney-run cookie-cutter boy-band
groups. This particular one does covers of old Devo songs.

[Steve Latham]

"Millard Fillmore" <***@whig.org.invalid> wrote in message news:220320061329480738%***@whig.org.invalid...
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Post by Millard Fillmore
Devo 2.0 is one of a number of Disney-run cookie-cutter boy-band
groups. This particular one does covers of old Devo songs.

Why does this not surprise me. Did Bambi need a sequel? Did Devon need a
sequel?

I'll let everyone take that in whatever way they'd like.

Later,
Steve

[Millard Fillmore]

Post by Steve Latham
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Post by Millard Fillmore
Devo 2.0 is one of a number of Disney-run cookie-cutter boy-band
groups. This particular one does covers of old Devo songs.

Why does this not surprise me. Did Bambi need a sequel? Did Devon need a
sequel?
I'll let everyone take that in whatever way they'd like.

The idea of a sequel to "Bambi" is, in itself, appalling. The ending
of the original is perfect, perfect, perfect -- the cycle of life, the
affirmation of love, the notion that life goes on. I first saw "Bambi"
when I was three years old, and I still remember crying hopelessly into
my mother's grey winter coat when Bambi's mother died. That was a
looooong time ago.

I realize that Disney has fooled with sequels and spinoffs for most of
its existence -- for example, the character "Scamp" was the son of Lady
and the Tramp -- but "Bambi" should have been untouchable.

I have no strong opinion about Devo. I once dated a woman whose
11-yr-old daughter wore one of those flowerpots on her head in
emulation of Devo. She was a nice kid, so -- as far as that goes --
Devo is okay with me.

[Steve Latham]

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Post by Millard Fillmore
The idea of a sequel to "Bambi" is, in itself, appalling.

I agree totally. It's as stupid as say, adding/fixing scenes in Star Wars
(ep. 4) [cue losts of posts]

But really, Bambi should be left alone. It's crass commercialism at its
finest.

Post by Millard Fillmore
I realize that Disney has fooled with sequels and spinoffs for most of
its existence -- for example, the character "Scamp" was the son of Lady
and the Tramp -- but "Bambi" should have been untouchable.

Agreed

Devo is OK. Devo 2.0 is not OK. How about not being lazy and coming up with
something creative, rather than relying on plagiarism (sounds like some of
our qualms about Monk, doesn't it!). Now, maybe some of the kids are
children of original Devo members, so that I could buy, but even then, we
don't really need a Rolling Stones 2, Beatles 2, Michael Jackson 2
(shudder), etc.

As is typical, usually when things are "new and improved", they bear no
resemblance to what they've been improved from except in name. Now, where'd
I put that New Coke.

Bye,
Steve

[Gary Childs]

How about not being lazy and coming up with something creative, rather
than relying on plagiarism

Devo 2.0 wasn't plagiarized. The songs were produced and recorded by the
members of Devo.
I gave a copy of Devo 2.0 to an 8-year old girl, and she loved it. To her
the songs are brand new.

Now, maybe some of the kids are children of original Devo members, so that
I could buy

So you're against plagiarism, but have no problem with nepotism.

[Steve Latham]

Post by Gary Childs

How about not being lazy and coming up with something creative, rather
than relying on plagiarism

Devo 2.0 wasn't plagiarized. The songs were produced and recorded by the
members of Devo.

Oh, that's better.

Post by Gary Childs
I gave a copy of Devo 2.0 to an 8-year old girl, and she loved it. To her
the songs are brand new.

Well, to many 20 year olds they're brand new (though there are the ever
present TV commercials slightly resembling the original tune).

Would she have loved it if the original members of DEVO were playing it
though? If she saw a bunch of old people playing it, she might not have been
as interested? No, wait, you said 8, not 13! Oh well, gotta be a marketing
schem in there somewhere.

Post by Gary Childs

Now, maybe some of the kids are children of original Devo members, so
that I could buy

So you're against plagiarism, but have no problem with nepotism.

You got it.

That reminds me, I need to call my dad for a favor, gotta go.

Steve

[Gary Childs]

Post by Steve Latham

Post by Gary Childs
Devo 2.0 wasn't plagiarized. The songs were produced and recorded by the
members of Devo.

Oh, that's better.

That's right. It is. It's their material and they were involved in the whole
project. They have talked for years about starting a new version of Devo.
This is Devo, the band that released muzak versions of their own songs. They
did it to themselves.

Post by Steve Latham
Would she have loved it if the original members of DEVO were playing it
though?

Probably not. Devo are old guys now.

Post by Steve Latham
If she saw a bunch of old people playing it, she might not have been as
interested?

Exactly. Kids like entertainment aimed at their demographic.

Post by Steve Latham
No, wait, you said 8, not 13! Oh well, gotta be a marketing schem in there
somewhere.

Count on it.

[Millard Fillmore]

Post by Gary Childs
So you're against plagiarism, but have no problem with nepotism.

You say that as if those two things had anything whatsoever to do with
each other.

[Gary Childs]

Post by Millard Fillmore

Post by Gary Childs
So you're against plagiarism, but have no problem with nepotism.

You say that as if those two things had anything whatsoever to do with
each other.

Our offspring plagiarise our genetic codes.

[Pink Pussycat]

Post by Gary Childs
Our offspring plagiarise our genetic codes.

Good thing I'm not breeding--I'd hate anyone to plagarise my genetic
code! ;-)


~Pink
(whose dream job is to write for a living)

[Ronald Cole]

Post by Millard Fillmore
The idea of a sequel to "Bambi" is, in itself, appalling. The ending
of the original is perfect, perfect, perfect -- the cycle of life, the
affirmation of love, the notion that life goes on. I first saw "Bambi"
when I was three years old, and I still remember crying hopelessly into
my mother's grey winter coat when Bambi's mother died. That was a
looooong time ago.

I, for one, prefer Mr. Hankey's "Circle of Poo". I'm man enough to
admit that still cry when I watch that South Park episode in reruns.

Sign seen above door on episode of American Chopper: "monkey will
throw feces".

[Gary Childs]

Devo 2.0 is one of a number of Disney-run cookie-cutter boy-band groups.

Devo 2.0 is a kids version of Devo.
This "boy-band" contains two girls.

This particular one does covers of old Devo songs.

They also do new Devo songs.

[Millard Fillmore]

Post by Gary Childs

Devo 2.0 is one of a number of Disney-run cookie-cutter boy-band groups.

Devo 2.0 is a kids version of Devo.
This "boy-band" contains two girls.

I meant that in a generic way, but you're quite right. Thanks for the
correction.

Post by Gary Childs

This particular one does covers of old Devo songs.

They also do new Devo songs.

Thank you for that as well.

[Rob Carroll]

On a side note, as a Devo fan, I wonder how Disney is getting around
the fact that Devo's biggest hit (Whip It, obviously) was about jacking
off? IIRC, Dev2.0 covers that song on the record. Devo actually did a
LOT of double-entendre, or just plain not-for-kids material. I mean,
it's one thing for a kid to be listening to it... but for 12 year old
kids to be performing that stuff? That's a little weird.

Anyways, I love Devo... the idea of Dev2.0 offended me a little... but
Mark Mothersbaugh has his fingers in a lot of stuff now (Rugrats, for
instance)... maybe this is just another part of his plan to conquer the
Earth. LOL.

[Gary Childs]

Post by Rob Carroll
On a side note, as a Devo fan, I wonder how Disney is getting around
the fact that Devo's biggest hit (Whip It, obviously) was about jacking
off?

As a Devo fan, you should know that "Whip It" isn't about jacking off.

[Millard Fillmore]

Post by Gary Childs

Post by Rob Carroll
On a side note, as a Devo fan, I wonder how Disney is getting around
the fact that Devo's biggest hit (Whip It, obviously) was about jacking
off?

As a Devo fan, you should know that "Whip It" isn't about jacking off.

No matter how I read these lyrics -- and I'm the first one to find smut
in anything -- I just don't see any references to masturbation here:

Crack that whip
Give the past the slip
Step on a crack
Break your momma's back

When a problem comes along
You must whip it
Before the cream sits out too long
You must whip it
When something's going wrong
You must whip it

now whip it
into shape
shape it up
get straight
go forward
move ahead
try to detect it
it's not too late
to whip it
whip it good

When a good time turns around
You must whip it
You will never live it down
Unless you whip it
No one gets their way
Until they whip it

I say whip it
Whip it good

[Steve Latham]

Post by Millard Fillmore

Post by Gary Childs

Post by Rob Carroll
On a side note, as a Devo fan, I wonder how Disney is getting around
the fact that Devo's biggest hit (Whip It, obviously) was about jacking
off?

As a Devo fan, you should know that "Whip It" isn't about jacking off.

No matter how I read these lyrics -- and I'm the first one to find smut

Ok Mill, let me explain:

You see there are birds, and bees....


:-)

Steve

[Ronald Cole]

Post by Steve Latham

Post by Millard Fillmore

Post by Gary Childs

Post by Rob Carroll
On a side note, as a Devo fan, I wonder how Disney is getting around
the fact that Devo's biggest hit (Whip It, obviously) was about jacking
off?

As a Devo fan, you should know that "Whip It" isn't about jacking off.

No matter how I read these lyrics -- and I'm the first one to find smut

You see there are birds, and bees....

And they "endeavor to persevere" just like Devo admonishes all the
spuds out in spudland to do in that song.

[r***@excite.com]

Yeah, but the song "Turning Japanese" by the Vapors was about jacking
off. Or at least the title is slang for it.

My friend lived in LA in 1980 and he said that at parties they
constantly played "Whip It" and "Turning Japanese" back-to-back.

Post by Gary Childs

Post by Rob Carroll
On a side note, as a Devo fan, I wonder how Disney is getting around
the fact that Devo's biggest hit (Whip It, obviously) was about jacking
off?

As a Devo fan, you should know that "Whip It" isn't about jacking off.

[Steve Latham]

Post by r***@excite.com
Yeah, but the song "Turning Japanese" by the Vapors was about jacking
off. Or at least the title is slang for it.

Great song, and that one I'd always heard of was about *that*. Whip it, I
just kind of assumed.

Post by r***@excite.com
My friend lived in LA in 1980 and he said that at parties they
constantly played "Whip It" and "Turning Japanese" back-to-back.

Followed by Darling Nikki (or a Pet Shop Boys song depending on the crowd).

Steve :-)

[Steve Latham]

Post by Gary Childs

Post by Rob Carroll
On a side note, as a Devo fan, I wonder how Disney is getting around
the fact that Devo's biggest hit (Whip It, obviously) was about jacking
off?

As a Devo fan, you should know that "Whip It" isn't about jacking off.

Cream isn't a reference?

[Gary Childs]

Post by Steve Latham

Post by Gary Childs
As a Devo fan, you should know that "Whip It" isn't about jacking off.

Cream isn't a reference?

Nope. The song is about overcoming obstacles or "whipping" them.
Cream is mentioned because it's merely something else that is whipped.
It's like the answer to a Family Feud question.
"Name things that are whipped".

Here are the facts on "Whip It":
http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=722

[Ronald Cole]

Post by Gary Childs

Post by Steve Latham

Post by Gary Childs
As a Devo fan, you should know that "Whip It" isn't about jacking off.

Cream isn't a reference?

Nope. The song is about overcoming obstacles or "whipping" them.
Cream is mentioned because it's merely something else that is whipped.
It's like the answer to a Family Feud question.
"Name things that are whipped".

Steve's penis?

[Steve Latham]

Post by Ronald Cole

Post by Gary Childs

Post by Steve Latham

Post by Gary Childs
As a Devo fan, you should know that "Whip It" isn't about jacking off.

Cream isn't a reference?

Nope. The song is about overcoming obstacles or "whipping" them.
Cream is mentioned because it's merely something else that is whipped.
It's like the answer to a Family Feud question.
"Name things that are whipped".

Steve's penis?

Survey says - no.
It's under "Name things that are stroked"

:-)

Steve

[Rob Carroll]

OK, just caught this post and read the link. Very interesting stuff!
Thanks for the link.

I stand corrected, but my mistake is understandable.

[Rob Carroll]

Well, I'm *a* Devo fan... never claimed to be *the* Devo fan... but I'm
sure I've heard a hundred times that Whip It was "the first song about
masturbation to reach the Top 40".

Care to provide some insight/quotes/etc. to support your theory (or
would that be an anti-theory)?

Anyways, whatever, maybe it's not. Either way, there are a bunch of
BETTER Devo songs.

[dave]

I'd have to agree with the "no, it's not" camp.
IMO, DEVO was never that subtle with sexual references.
Not a criticism, just an observation.

Somebody should do a compilation of masturbation songs.

-Dave

[Steve Latham]

Post by Rob Carroll
On a side note, as a Devo fan, I wonder how Disney is getting around
the fact that Devo's biggest hit (Whip It, obviously) was about jacking
off? IIRC, Dev2.0 covers that song on the record. Devo actually did a
LOT of double-entendre, or just plain not-for-kids material. I mean,
it's one thing for a kid to be listening to it... but for 12 year old
kids to be performing that stuff? That's a little weird.

I gave up when I was playing a gig, and this proabably 7 or 8 year old boy
came up and asked if we played (i.e. requested) "do it in da butt".

Ahh, modern society.

Whatever happend to double-entendre - now whip it would be called stoke your
cock and a parental advisory sticker would be placed on the cover. Brilliant
move Tipper.

Steve

[Steve Latham]

Post by r***@excite.com
Kane Richotte was an actor in Monk and is now the drummer in Dev2.0.
Has he talked about being in Monk?

I'm sure he has better things to do :-D


LSL