Discussion:
Reissues---Collectables vs. Infinite Zero
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Boom
2005-03-26 08:44:38 UTC
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OK, we've come to the conclusion already that anything issued on
Warner Bros. and Virgin is inferior to their Infinite Zero and Rhino
counterparts, but how do the new reissues by Collectables stack up
against the Rhino and IZ remasters?

Pretty darn well. In fact, I would say identical to my ears. Loading
up sample tracks in Sound Forge showed the IZ having a slightly louder
spectrograph than the Collectables versions, but I couldn't tell the
difference between the two versions just listening with my eyes
closed.

I think the Collectables reissues could have been a lot less chintzy
with packaging and bonus tracks. None of these reissues have bonus
tracks at all, and there are no lyric sheets and extra pictures from
the LP releases. But if you don't have these on CD already, it's
really your only option, as the Virgin reissues absolutely suck. At
least the Collectables reissues have the good sounding masters.
Reverend Beastly
2005-03-26 09:00:47 UTC
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You've reached basically the same conclusion that I have. Sourced from
the same remastered material and the Collectables isn't clipped.
Definitely worth having for the collector, and as a nice alternative to
spinning your IZ discs, providing them with some much-needed shelf-rest.
Shout is coming out pretty soon and I can't see Oh No coming out long
after that. Wow, a world where all of Devo's albums are readily available...

-Alex
Rev. Richard Skull
2005-03-26 17:01:50 UTC
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<<I think the Collectables reissues could have been a lot less chintzy
with packaging and bonus tracks. None of these reissues have bonus
tracks at all, and there are no lyric sheets and extra pictures from
the LP releases.>>

This would require more "lawyers" to fight with WB and who ever got the
dried up carcus of Inigma Records.

This would also require more "royalties" to said entities which would
require even more "fees" to the Lawyers.

I think they were more concerned with getting clean, high quality
re-issues then exactly matching the orginal Vinyl LP.
Rev. Richard Skull
2005-03-28 08:53:04 UTC
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affected
with Christ's death, have at the same time a lively idea of Christ
hanging upon the cross, and His blood running from His wounds. Surely
such things will not be wondered at by them who have observed how any
strong affections about temporal matters will excite lively ideas and
pictures of different things in the mind.

The vigorous exercises of the mind, doubtless, more strongly impress it
with imaginary ideas in some than others, which probably may arise from
the difference of constitution, and seems evidently in some, partly to
arise from their peculiar circumstances. When persons have been
exercised with extreme terrors, and there is a sudden change to light
and joy, the imagination seems more susceptive of strong ideas; the
inferior powers, and even the frame of the body, are much more affected,
than when the same persons have as great spiritual light and joy
afterwards; of which it might, perhaps, be easy to give a reason. The
forementioned Reverend Messrs. Lord and Owen-who, I believe, are
esteemed persons of learning and discretion where they are best
known-declared, that they found these impressions on persons'
imaginations quite different things from what fame had before
represented to them, and that they were what none need to wonder at-or
to that purpose.

There have indeed been some few instances of impressions on persons
imaginations, which have been somewhat mysterious to me, and I have been
at a loss about them. For, though it has been exceeding evident to me,
by many things that appeared both then and afterwards, that they



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Reverend Beastly
2005-03-28 05:34:31 UTC
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Those who ordained these sacrifices knew their uselessness; those who have
declared their uselessness, have not ceased to practise them.

If God had permitted only one religion, it has been too easily known; but
when we look at it closely, we clearly discern the truth amidst this
confusion.

The premiss.--Moses was a clever man. If, then, he ruled himself by his
reason, he would say nothing clearly which was directly against reason.

Thus all the very apparent weaknesses are strength. Example; the two
genealogies in Saint Matthew and Saint Luke. What can be clearer than that
this was not concerted?

579. God (and the Apostles), foreseeing that the seeds of pride would make
heresies spring up, and being unwilling to give them occasion to arise from
correct expressions, has put in Scripture and the prayers of the Church
contrary words and sentences to produce their fruit in time.

So in morals He gives charity, which produces fruits contrary to lust.

580. Nature has some perfections to show that she is the image of God, and
some defects to show that she is only His image.

581. God prefers rather to incline the will than the intellect. Perfect
clearness would be of use to the intellect and would harm the will. To
humble pride.

582. We make an idol of truth itself; for truth apart from charity



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